Talk:Vilnius

To list veg restaurants or not to list?

Linking to other places is great but why remove all the info here? I wanna create a free and adfree Veganwiki Android app for offline use. And it would be nice to have this information on it. Maybe we should add "last checked" dates such as on Trashwiki? Guaka (talk) 21:41, 17 April 2013 (CEST)

I agree. It would be really helpful for some people to have a list of vegan friendly places already in this wiki without the need to go to happycow or somewhere else. Also, that's the only wiki as far as I know where such information is collected, and anyone can improve it. The problem with happycow is that you have to register, fill all kinds of forms, your additions are reviewed (which takes time) and only then appear on the page. I would really like to see this getting more open, and vegan wiki could be one of the platforms where that happens.

To improve our lists, as Guaka suggested, we can add "last checked" information. If a list of a certain city becomes too long, we can create a new page "List of vegan friendly places in ______". Some users might also want to create individual pages of some vegan restaurants with their history, photos, reviews, etc.--Linas (talk) 01:41, 18 April 2013 (CEST)

You guys might be right. However, there are some clear advantages of HappyCow listings when it comes to veg.restaurants. I already mentioned it on Community portal here, and we can try to put all the pros and cons on the table:

HappyCow listings are better because:

* they have integrated maps

* there are personal reviews, with rating possibility

* they are more precise and up-to-date

* there is an Android app with integrated maps showing the nearest veg.places to your chosen location.

Cons:

* registration

* not so open (additions have to be reviewed)

* confusing with all the non-vegan-related adds around.

The history and realities of internet marketing show that if some project has some original features that no one else has, it can get big and successfull while other projects fade away (for example, Facebook right now barely has any serious competitors, not even Google+). Unless we implement all or most of the above mentioned "pros" there is a big chance our listings of veg.places will never come close to be usefull for anyone as HappyCow offers much better service of that kind of information. Nonetheless, I am ready to continue listing veg restaurants on Veganwiki if you can explain me your VISION how Veganwiki can make its veg restaruants listings successful. (For example, is there any possibility to implement rating system on Veganwiki, with users rating veg.places from one to five stars, or similar?) --Sigurdas (talk) 12:52, 18 April 2013 (CEST)

I agree that happycow has more features, and it is naive to think that a bunch of enthusiasts here at veganwiki can make something better at this moment. Nevertheless I don't see any harm if we provide a list of vegan friendly places here, too. As our project grows, we might add ratings, comments, maps, etc. latter. --Linas (talk) 09:44, 20 April 2013 (CEST)